Laurie Cole: "Property Rights Mean Sh**"
From the papers:
"Town Council member Laurie Cole [said] that the town [should] consider registering landlords who rent property in Vienna but do not live in the town. The town could use Rhode Island's rules as a model, Cole said."
What other Nazi-like tactics you got up your sleeve Laurie? Maybe you could put "stars" on those out of Town landlords too? Better yet maybe you could put all of the out of town landlords and their properties into a new historic district with no rules or substance? We feel for you though. It must be hard waking up each day as an attorney with no real purpose. Dreaming up new ways to screw over people's property rights, inventing foolish laws, must be the ultimate high for you!






Comments
My father owns registered beagles. Is Laurie equating out-of-town landlords with four-legged animals who live outside in a coop because they aren't properly house trained?
Posted by: Pontific8tor | October 25, 2007 04:15 PM
How does this get enforced? Can't fix roads, no sidewalks, but plenty of time for this BS discrimination.
Posted by: HV | October 25, 2007 09:52 PM
What is the implication here? "consider registering landlords who rent property in Vienna but do not live in the town" Is this for purposes of charging higher taxes? different rules- like a reverse discrimination of sorts?, what? why is she considering this? or is this just some sort of registry to have at hand so the TC can call them up in the middle of the night to have nice fireside chats?
Leave it to Cole, if it has something to do with real estate, you have to wonder what angle or profit she gets out of the deal, I would not trust anything that has her fingerprints on them, she's untrustworthy. She's a real shark with eyes that don't move when she's looking for deals, watch her closely at the next TC meeting.
Posted by: Say What? | October 26, 2007 03:24 AM
You must know that one of the official rules of the internet is that you automatically lose the argument when you invoke the Nazis. Just for the record though, the idea of registering absentee landlords is hardly novel. If you Google the subject, you'll get many hits for jurisdictions that have either enacted such requirements or are discussing them. The reasons given for requiring absentee landlords to register with the local government are typically to ensure that problem properties (unsafe, unsightly, nuisance, etc.) can be effectively dealt with. There's no evidence that such regulations arise from greed or corruption of local governments, or from the desire to commit genocide.
The number of rental houses seems to be on the upswing, at least in my neighborhood, and overcrowded rental properties are a well-documented problem in this region. Why do you oppose regulations that could help to address this problem?
Posted by: In absentia | October 26, 2007 09:45 AM
My eyes!
Posted by: MY EYES! MY EYES! | October 26, 2007 09:50 AM
IF LAURIE IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO DO WITH THE ZONING CODE SHE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER REWRITING IT WITH THE 21ST CENTURY IN MIND SO THAT MORE THAN 10% OF THE PRESENT MAPLE AVE COMMERCIAL STRIP IS ENCOURAGED TO MODERNIZE ALONG WITH COMPLYING WITH THE NEW CODE. SHE MIGHT ALSO WANT TO REVIEW THE VISION COMMITTEE REPORT. I DARE SAY THEY HAVE GIVEN A HELL OF A LOT MORE THOUGHT TO IT THAN ANY MEMBER OF THE TC HAS IN THE LAST 40 YEARS.
Posted by: HISTORIC LIES | October 26, 2007 11:25 AM
Before you twits go assuming it is a problem, document it. I love your choice of words, "it seems", "in the region", "problem properties", "dealt with". Yes 'Nazi' fits with that asinine rhetoric.
Just because you "feel" it is a problem doesn't make it so. Of course, there are plenty of people who actually live in their dilapidated and uncared for houses in Vienna, what about them too? Where does the line get drawn? What are the rules exactly? This is all one big slippery slope. It's the exact same crap as the historic district. So called noble intentions, wrapped in sure to be corruption, cronyism and bureaucracy. Try again 'In absentia'.
Posted by: HV | October 26, 2007 01:53 PM
You have been here on this site defending this inept Council's actions for over a year. You have NO argument Visionary, Surfer Dude, or whatever you call yourself today. You just spit out the party line like a well cared for Kool-Aid drinker would be expected to do.
Posted by: HV | October 26, 2007 03:05 PM
Yes, I will say it: some of the worst properties in town are lived in by the actual owners listed on the deed. Do we start harassing them, too?! I would post addresses but that may be overstepping a line (I think).
I do not know where these rental properties are becoming widespread. In NW Vienna, rentals are slowly disappearing since a teardown is now worth over 500k. It makes more economic sense to sell than to bother being a landlord in Vienna. Two more rentals on Orchard Street were just torn down last week to make way for two new houses.
Posted by: vienna mommy | October 26, 2007 03:17 PM
If you have no knowledge of county-wide concerns about overcrowded rental houses, then you truly are ignorant. Try looking beyond your selfish concerns once in a while and you might understand the world well enough to offer intelligent commentary on current events. Or at least use Google before you make things up and claim they're true.
Posted by: In absentia | October 26, 2007 04:08 PM
Twit response. Is someone "selfish" if they seek to see proof before expanding the size of government? Why don't you explain how this a** backwards idea would be enforced? Is enforcement free in your world?
Posted by: HV | October 26, 2007 04:33 PM
And yes, who's kidding who, this is Laurie Cole's sneaky attempt to try and "control" the Hispanic population in Vienna. Vienna Town Council is not made up of either Republicans or Democrats, but rather little weenies hell bent on appeasing the only goal that matters to them - keeping their round butts planted in a Council seat.
Posted by: HV | October 26, 2007 07:13 PM
If you have no knowledge of county-wide concerns about overcrowded rental houses, then you truly are ignorant.
This is a Vienna blog - we were speaking of Vienna. I asked you to tell me where there are a huge number of rental homes that are overcrowded.
Posted by: vienna mommy | October 26, 2007 07:19 PM
The only person using the word "huge" is you, vienna mommy. If you and your family members can't discuss an issue without resorting to name-calling and mischaracterizing other people's statements, then there's no point in having a discussion with you. It's obvious that you have a very limited view of the world, having gotten no farther in life [...]. Grow up, learn something, and make a positive contribution to society. Then maybe you'll be worth listening to.
Posted by: What's the use | October 27, 2007 01:57 AM
The last statement proved to me for the first time, this is a person who is a TC member or family member of a TC person.
No other person would EVER post such passionate loyalty towards the town's corruption and stupidity.
Sad really.
Posted by: hmmm ... | October 27, 2007 09:29 AM
Hispanic people or no Hispanic people, the most annoying renters in my neck of the woods are college students. A couple of older houses are now teardowns, but more have gone rental (probably around 5 rental ramblers on my block alone, if you count both sides of the street). Drive around Yeonasland in SW Vienna and you'll get the picture.
Posted by: Not in NW | October 27, 2007 12:03 PM
New laws targeting college students because you are "annoyed" with them? What other groups can we target? Maud hates kids, maybe we just outlaw kids in Vienna?
Posted by: HV | October 27, 2007 12:28 PM
So it's okay for you to be a name-caller, but if I criticize you for that behavior, I'm automatically Maud's grandkid? Get a grip. There are lots of people that laugh at you who are in no way related to the town government, including me. I just thought it was hilarious that you can't stop yourself from invoking the Nazis on a regular basis, even though you know it automatically costs you whatever tiny amount of credibility you may have otherwise possessed.
It really wasn't very hard to figure out your identity from all the stains you've left on the internet. You're even called out by name in one of the videos you posted on your web site. It doesn't take connections to the town government to connect the dots between this web site and the places that non-anonymously report your antics.
And back on topic, my guess is that you object to the thought of registering absentee landlords because you yourself are becoming a long-term landlord of the various properties you bought but haven't been able to tear down and rebuild with non-single-family developments. Your motives never extend beyond narrow self-interest and greed.
Posted by: Your favorite twit | October 27, 2007 02:15 PM
There it is. Private citizens in Vienna, who have uncovered gross corruption and incompetence on the part of TC members, are the ones to blame! I can imagine that you and yours on TC (friends, relatives, whatever), are embarrassed that a group of people has finally put your nonsense in the public eye. If the best shot you have is that some posters here are "successful", therefore they can't be "trusted", well, let's see how far you get with that stance! Nice diversion, but we here have the eye on the real prize: the downing of the Maud machine and all that goes with it...
Posted by: Conspiracy 101 | October 27, 2007 05:31 PM
Your motives never extend beyond narrow self-interest and greed.
Making money is now considered "greedy"? Are we only allowed to earn as much as our neighbor? Any more and we are "greedy"? What is the magic number we can make each year before we are just being "greedy"? 100k? 200k? 300k? 500k? Come to think of it, if you do make 500k per year, you should just move since you are staying in Vienna just to rub it in our noses.
I think we should only allow Steve Bukont to build two 1.5M houses per year. Anymore and he's making way more than a GS-14. And, that's not fair.
Note: this is one of Maud's favorite tactics to rile up her voters in the Spring.
Posted by: vienna mommy | October 28, 2007 09:59 AM
If you have no knowledge of county-wide concerns about overcrowded rental houses, then you truly are ignorant. I agree that this is a problem, everywhere. My question though is when a neighbor calls to report this problem what does the Town do? This is a clear zoning/legal issue that needs be addressed and not continually buried.
Posted by: frustrated citizen | October 29, 2007 10:49 AM
Why can't these TC people remember that they live in VIRGINIA and not up North? Good God Maud and Cole should just GO BACK up there and leave us alone!
Posted by: born in Virginia | October 29, 2007 10:51 AM
You want to know what the town enforces? Do you realize that this town has real problems and faces real life problems that have to be dealt with like the traffic, crime, business support, schools and education, adequate police and fire support, etc... but the Town of Vienna would rather spend it's time and resources sending out official notices and letters to tax paying residents who they claim are positioning their trash bins out on the street before 6 pm! probably because Lane Hyde drives around town looking for people to turn in!
What a joke, yes this really happens, we get busybody people like Lane Hyde and Maud Robinson who probably have nothing better to do but drive around town and look for people to turn in because their trash bins are brought out to the curb before their allotted time!
All this while The TC and Vienna Gov totally ignore the real problems with MS-13 hiding in our motels, and traffic problems, crime, etc. at least we can enforce a silly law about trash bins! Is Laurie Cole behind this too? Are they upset about the bungy cord posts?
You have to really wonder what the hell these people are thinking... when government abuse goes awry.
Posted by: Way off track... | October 30, 2007 08:04 AM
If you have no knowledge of county-wide concerns about overcrowded rental houses, then you truly are ignorant.
Give me one house address in Vienna.
Posted by: ignorant schmignorant | October 30, 2007 10:49 AM
Just remember, it's "Northern Virginia", where all of us "Northerners" move to. :)
Posted by: You're kidding me, right? | October 30, 2007 08:04 PM
I note from the article on sungazette.net that there is an existing requirement for registration of absentee landlords of multiple properties, and the town council was simply discussing expanding it to apply to absentee landlords of single properties. Explain how this is Nazi-esque and/or corrupt, please.
Posted by: Been busy | October 31, 2007 03:48 PM
Forcing any person to register their property is more than the government should be involved. If I want to rent my home, it is between me and the tenant (and my accountant).
The town is doing this measure to harass people. Plenty of residents live in unkempt houses (uncut lawns, peeling paint, falling down fences) but this measure gives the town the right to crack down on people who are, once again, perceived to be making money (rental home).
A person may rent a home for many reasons. The town does not have the right to get involved in a person's personal business. If the grass is above 6 inches, enforce the ordinance in the town that requires the lawn to be cut. But, unfortunately, this same ordinance, does not make my neighbor cut their lawn more than 1x per month.
Let me put it this way: the town does have a huge problem at Cedar Lane shopping center (see my post on here about the recent malicious wounding). When have you EVER seen a town politician speak up about this in a Trompeter article?!
Posted by: vienna mommy | November 6, 2007 09:26 AM