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Vienna Election Change; Time to Toss Out Maudasaurus

The time has come to move Vienna's May election to a more typical November election. Vienna's May election brings out 10% of the vote. A November election would bring out 35-50%+ of the vote. Fortunately, State law allows citizens to put the change up for a vote as a ballot initiative. The plan is to place that on the ballot for November 2008. The process, however, will take work. If you are wiling to help out, let us know!

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Sounds good. Do you have a contact e-mail address for this?

BTW, I went to vote at the Community Center this morning. Hoped to see Rhoda Stevens there, but she was nowhere to be found.... ;-(

Ballot initiative in a Fall or Spring election?

Dog and pony show

The term has come to mean any type of presentation or display that is somewhat pathetically contrived or overly intricate, or put on for purposes of gaining approval for a program, policy, etc.

What the hell happened? Last year I saw support from a well organized district chairman that pulled out all the stops for the republican party to get their candidates elected: volunteers at the polls, pamphlets, door to door, etc. This year: Zero!

I saw at least a dozen Chap and other supporters for the democrats handing out pamphlets etc, and none for the republicans!

Chap even came to our door!

Virginia republicans seem to be only interested in their own elections and fail totally on what the republican party is supposed to stand for, and this disorganized divisive behavior is why we are seeing less republicans voted in our state and in Washington, DC.

I got a letter "Friends and Neighbors" to garner support for Jeannemarie Devolites Davis, and if this is what the Hunter Mill District Chairman thought it was going to take to get her re-elected, he or she is blind to the fact that is takes more than just saying you are bi-partisan and more of voicing your full support for the other republican candidates and the issues that make the republican party what it is. The letter was signed by 28 republicans (some are republican in name only: Jane Seeman, Maud Robinson, Jack Mitchell, the Brehoneys, the Dellingers, the Colbert Clan, George Creed...)

... a good look into their politics and behavior paints a extremely divisive and partisan laden ideology that has kept Vienna from joining together and working together to get things done and instead we have a divided town that's only interests are tattling on their neighbors and making sure they get what they want and to hell with the others. In other words, they miss the big picture: there is so much in-fighting and irascible behavior in this town that the important issues are being ignored. Oh, yes we have our parades, and strolls, and meetings, but in a town with so many people with differing opinions, we would benefit from our local leaders being more unifying instead we get ones that stick their heels in the dirt and dare you to cross their lines. This is not a way to run a town, but alas, that is what our few voters apparently desire in their rulers: Maud and her puppets. and all for what? To fight the inevitable change... you might think that was the reason, but looking more closely and you will see that it is simply more basic than that: they fight because that is what keeps them alive. These people have lived in the back seat of life for all their life, and when they get elected to council, it is their 15 minutes of fame and power to be the abuser and not the abused which they cherish most dearly, because of all the abuse they must have endured before they got a hold on the reigns. If you really think this is good politics or this is good for Vienna, you are part of the problem. Vienna faces issues that need undivided support, and the current lot of players simply do not care to take this into consideration, or maybe they are incapable of doing so, simply because it is not in their nature.

When was the last time you ever heard any of these people saying anything of substance to citizens that come before them in Council when they petition them for assistance? Their standard operating procedure is to shoot them down and ridicule them whenever they can.

From the letter: Jeannemarie exemplifies that bi-partisan spirit... huh? calling Davis bi-partisan is like calling Michael Jackson black.

Maud and Jane clearly lose in a November election. Jeannemarie proves that.

What the hell happened? Last year I saw support from a well organized district chairman that pulled out all the stops for the republican party to get their candidates elected: volunteers at the polls, pamphlets, door to door, etc. This year: Zero!

The party of special interests eats its own. Moderates Tom and Jeannemarie have been abandoned, first by their party, and then by the voters. Real Republicans (and Democrats) ought to think about cleaning house instead of letting their politics be co-opted by special interests like big business and assorted evangelical regressives. This article characterizes the nature of the danger inherent in a party of special interests (or a church, or any other high-minded special group or individual)... as if the Bush Administration hasn't already proven this. Such a party is doomed to self-destruct, but unfortunately often not until after wreaking much havoc and destruction.

I tell you what happened. Earlier this year when Susan Stich was running for Vienna Town Council, Jim Hyland, Mike Polychrones, and George Creed treated Susan Stich like complete crap -- worse than crap, really. Susan finally had enough and resigned as Hunter Mill District Chairman. JMDD and TD can thank those jerks for the lackluster turnout for JMDD.

What goes around, comes around.

Jeannemarie never came knocking on my door but Chap most certainly did. I'm not even a Democrat but I thought Chap was the superior candidate (as did a lot of other people).

JDD is part of the Maud/Jane bullcrap. JDD lost every Vienna district and November elections would get rid of Mad Maud and Mayor Boob:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2007/196E44FA-8B19-4240-9A44-737216DAA55D/Unofficial/00_p_059_729836E4-EDD9-4C14-A993-CCE9E4E3CF22.shtml

so what was yesterday's voter turnout?

And if Vienna voting is moved to November, how do you deal with the fact that not all of Vienna is in the precinct that votes at the community center. Lots of folks vote at Madison, along with non-town folks. How would that work?

I saw they are auctioning the infamous Friends and Neighbors Letter with all those wacky signatures on Ebay and its presently going for almost $20,000 !!!! You better bid early!

Who DOOOOOOOO these people think they are, signing this letter like they are some band on brothers. Boy are they IMPORTANT!

NOT!

Desperate is more like it.

What a laughing stock! Were they thinking they were going to have a Hancock moment? Ooooh, I'm getting all tingly!

I tell you what happened. Earlier this year when Susan Stich was running for Vienna Town Council, Jim Hyland, Mike Polychrones, and George Creed treated Susan Stich like complete crap -- worse than crap, really.

These people (Hyland, Polychrones, and Creed) are not good people, nor would they ever make good politicians, or good leaders, or good at anything but sitting on their asses and doing nothing so they can get their positions of self-aggrandizement, a behavior that these RINO's have become altogrther too good at.

For instance, what has polychrones done but sit on his arse and keep kissing the arse of Maud!

He calls himself a R, but he doesn't even have the guts to be either R or D, he is useless and so is everyone one of the TC politicians who kiss Mauds Arse... and that list includes:
Ploychrones
Seeman
Cole
Dellinger
Kelleher
Lovelace
Briglia
!

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so what was yesterday's voter turnout?

And if Vienna voting is moved to November, how do you deal with the fact that not all of Vienna is in the precinct that votes at the community center. Lots of folks vote at Madison, along with non-town folks. How would that work?

Posted by: Curious | November 7, 2007 10:53 PM

Just have separate machines set up in the same polling area that will take the voters for Vienna Only Elections, for those who live in Vienna.

Re: From the letter: Jeannemarie exemplifies that bi-partisan spirit... huh? calling Davis bi-partisan is like calling Michael Jackson black.

Michael Jackson IS black?

Obama has said the baby boomer generation needs to step aside and allow for the new generation to come into power.

In Vienna, we cannot ask for the baby boomers to step aside since we have two generations prior to that still clinging to power. STEP ASIDE YOU PATHETIC CLOWNS.

p.s. Yes, I'm fired up. Who would have thought getting rid of JDD would have felt so empowering?!

Michael Jackson IS black. and Tom Davis used to be pretty bipartisan, and a pretty effective leader. but he's had to make a hard right turn to appease the repub leadership & it will be his downfall. It will be the downfall of the entire party.

"I tell you what happened. Earlier this year when Susan Stich was running for Vienna Town Council, Jim Hyland, Mike Polychrones, and George Creed treated Susan Stich like complete crap -- worse than crap, really. Susan finally had enough and resigned as Hunter Mill District Chairman. JMDD and TD can thank those jerks for the lackluster turnout for JMDD."

OMG -- Thanks for the belly laugh!!! I have not laughed that much for a long time. Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle...

If the same Vienna town council candidates had run on the ballot this past Tuesday, I think the result still would have been the same. The people voting for Chap aren't necessarily going to vote for them... and even Chap only won 55-45 to 60-40, the challengers lost by more than that.

I am glad someone sees a silver lining in all this crap. The republican party is self destructing, no one gets along, everyone is pointing fingers, and that's what Vienna is all about.

Great, isn't it.

That's what they say, laughter IS the best medicine.

If the same Vienna town council candidates had run on the ballot this past Tuesday, I think the result still would have been the same.

I strongly disagree. The young(er) families I know will not usually vote in the Town's spring elections but they will vote in the fall (lame, yes, I know). The turnout and the percentages would be VERY different if we did not continue our ridiculous town farce at the community center every spring.

If I have to witness Maud Robinson tickling the chin of one more wheelchair bound senior, I may lose it. And, yes, this does happen. Just hang out at the polls for a couple hours, you'll see this stuff. It's unbelievable.

Food for Thought

Some of these are very close to home here in Vienna:

*Moonshine Election Territories: 4 or more of the following characteristics 1. Rural location 2. Family members hold multiple positions in the local government 3. Problems are noted in financial audits 4. Felony convictions of local officials 5. Questionable election situations 6. Obstructs or ignores Freedom of Information (public records) requests 7. Uses computerized voting systems serviced by small subcontractors

IN ANSWER TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, YES I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK TO GET THE VIENNA ELECTIONS MOVED TO NOVEMBER INITIATIVE ON THE NEXT BALLOT. JUST LET ME KNOW WHERE, WHEN AND WHAT TO DO. IF IT IS INCLUDED I HOPE THAT MORE THAN JUST MAUD'S "FRIENDS" SHOW UP.

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