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Time to rid Vienna of all Latinos. Go Mom!

WHY BEAT A DEAD HORSE?

Qualifications? Connected to the Robinsons.

You mean PUPPET STRINGS from Mauds Hand to Seamans Spine and Mouth...

Qualifications? Check out her hat. Pro-Lifer Rotarian from Wacky Kansas. Fits right in with the rest of the Pro Life Rotarians who control the TOV. Loves using Maudie's large police bureaucracy for social control, enforcement of Rotarian correctness, and harassment of "troublemakers."

Why the harsh words regarding: "Qualifications? Check out her hat. Pro-Lifer Rotarian from Wacky Kansas. Fits right in with the rest of the Pro Life Rotarians who control the TOV.[specifically the harsh words regarding "Pro-life"?]

I can and do understand the other comments, as Jane Seaman is not what anyone would consider a beacon of light or even a candle light when it comes to what the Rotarians Guiding principles are:

From their website, they must answer:
The Four-Way Test

The test, which has been translated into more than 100 languages, asks the following questions:

Of the things we[Rotary Club Members] think, say or do

1. Is it the TRUTH?
2. Is it FAIR to all concerned?
3. Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?
4. Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned

For anyone who spends time with her closely on the VTC, they will admit, she fails miserably on all counts. She is no leader, either. She very cantankerous, extremely prejudiced against fairness is government, loves to abuse her position of mayor, is great at producing ill will and promoting hostility, and gives not a damn about whether her actions benefit the town citizens. She's too ignorant to know that she's a laughing stock of Vienna Politics, but, alas, her close coterie of friends and family keep her clueless, so they can keep her in power for their own sakes.

But, Pro-Life, now that's hitting below the belt.

Sorry Lobotommy, your mom hasn't done jack to get rid of the day laborers and illegal aliens packing into the southside of Vienna. She's waiting until they cross the border (123) to the north side of town. Then it will be an urgent issue.

Until then, we southsiders are expected to suck it up and deal with the over-crowding, robberies, and violent assaults.

See for yourselves what the fat assed Vienna Rotarians have to say about Mayor Jane on the Rotarians' Web site.

As a new resident in Vienna I've found this blog very insightful for many reasons. I don't know Jane Seaman so it's helpful to read what my new neighbors think but... really, c'mon is being pro-life really a reason to hate the woman? If so, I may have moved to the wrong town. My thanks to Huh? for providing some constructive criticism that doesn't involve a non-TOV issue like abortion.

Jane Seeman is the TOV Rotarians' poster girl. Pro-Life is part of the same old Neo-Con belief system, abbreviated B.S., that Neo-Cons who control the TOV constantly impose on everyone else.

Is the hypocrisy of it fair game? Or will that also hit too close to home for "Huh? Former VTC" and "New to TOV"?

I say this as the proud father of United States Marine. I say this as someone who believes that we should be in Afghanistan where my son served, fought and risked his life for us all. I also say this as someone who believes that when it comes to pro-life issues in the most comprehensive sense, that President Bush, Dick Cheney and the neoconservative/Republican establishment have needlessly killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis and over 4000 American servicemen and women.

I use the words "needlessly killed" advisedly. When you send men and women into an unnecessary and unprovoked war-of-choice for spurious reasons that then turn into outright lies, you've murdered them. And George W. Bush has sanctioned torture, contravened the Geneva conventions, and has lied to the American people about all of it. ...

The Republican leadership is not pro-life. They are simply against abortion for reasons of political expediency. They are also for torture and military aggression. And they chose a literal executioner for president; a former governor who has more blood on his hands than any other modern American governor; Mr. Texas-sized, Capital Punishment-with-no-mercy-no-pardons hang em' high himself.

The Republicans have contributed to climate change by coddling oil companies and car companies and ducking the hard environmental and energy policy questions for thirty years. They have literally sold our country to the highest polluting bidders from the Saudis to the Chinese. Therefore the Republicans have literally risked the ability of our planet to sustain all human life born and unborn. So much for human life values.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/frank-as-a-former-pro-lif_b_119435.html

New to TOV,

I like the insightful comments concerning the town here as well. Unfortunately like a lot of other blogs you have also weed through many dumb and extremely biased comments as well. I just ignore them since it's hard to have an intelligent discussion with someone so biased - they eventually peeter out.

Regarding:


See for yourselves what the fat assed Vienna Rotarians have to say about Mayor Jane on the Rotarians' Web site.

Posted by: Rotarians & Jane Seeman | June 3, 2009 03:32 PM


Can you enlighten us? Is this good, bad?

Dear Internet,

I didn't say I did or did not agree with you, rather, you need not be too visceral in your criticism of Vienna's Mayor, Jane Seeman. I think, the ONLY reason, Jane is still mayor, is that she is the only person up there Maud thinks can win, and that Maud knows she can and must control. George Lovelace proved that last year; in fact, he was almost completely cut out of the scene, and was allowed back in, only after he promised he would never do something like that again, i.e. run against Jane Seeman. George obligingly, agreed.

There are too many skeletons in Vienna's back rooms to allow just anyone on VTC. They have to protect and defend their power base at all costs, even if this means voter manipulation and voter fraud when they told Rhoda Stevens to change votes, when Susan and Deborah ran a couple of years back. Jane Seeman proved then how stupid she was when she openly bragged about how they did [voter fraud] what they did and how they were able to get away with it for years.

Are you doubtful? Sit down and have a few quiet conversations with some of our long time police officers, and then again with some of the younger ones. You will then begin to see how corrupt our Town really is.

Jane is like a class dummy who's too stupid to know when it's time to come in from the rain. But she's 100% loyal to Maud and her power base, else she loses her seat. She knows she would never win if she ever strayed away from Maud's wishes.

Don't get me wrong: Jane is nice enough at home and as a close neighbor, but I would never invite her over for a game of bridge. She's too mean, and knows little about how to be a good leader or mayor, because she just doesn't know how. She never will.

"Former VTC" - Who are you pretending to be? If you are indeed a former Vienna Town Council Member, you would be either Dan Dellinger or Richard (Dick) Dingman. Doubts are you are neither of those two, so maybe you live outside of TOV, or perhaps you are DEAD - In either case your validity for posting under such a pseudonym is called into question.

Let me state for the record for all who read here:

Ms. Stich was a sincere and qualified candidate. We did not run together, nor were we associated. Her agenda was honorable to her and her supporters, as was mine.

It is unfair to Ms. Stich as well as myself to say "when Susan and Deborah ran a couple of years back..." and connote any implication that we were on the same road....

We were perhaps on the same road, but had different paths to get there..

No mind, all paths lead to an end, or perhaps just a beginning.

The point I want to post here is that I am SICK AND TIRED of the constant chatter about the perceived irregularities of the 2007 election. Mrs. Stephens DID upon RARE instance, speak inappropriately. There were TWO (2) complaints filed in 2007 with the Virginia State Board of Elections for inproprieties at that poll. That's ALL. I have them on file, along with my own personal deposition to the Fairfax County Board of Elections.

Mrs. Stephen's remarks, while wrong, did not in ANY WAY affect the outcome of the election, nor was there ANY reason to believe that she was "told" to do so by any Council Member of the Town, nor "led" by anyone else other than herself to say what she did.

Mrs. Stephens was simply an elder woman, believing she was doing the "right thing" telling people they had to vote for three persons, not fully understanding the rules.

There was NO malice involved, no "plot," as they say...

"Move on People," "Nothing to see here" as they say.

So much has been made of this whole issue over these years, and there's really NOTHING to see. In past Posts on this site, there have been those who claimed "OH MY GOD, the Police were called, and they did nothing!," but the "Police" have NOTHING to do with local (Fairfax County) elections...How can I make this clearer?

There was no reason to "boot" Mrs. Stephens out. She was an elder woman, she mis-spoke, and she was moved from poll watcher to poll registrar. If she had been removed entirely, the voting could not have continued, as there would have legally been an insuficient number of persons working at the polls!

If you want to change things, look first at the legal issues - Look at policy rather than persons! Volunteer yourselves to work at the polls, from 6:30am until whenever (8:00 pm) for $75.00 for 12 hours...Last time I tried that I pulled my back out, and for my $75.00, I spent $500.00+ at the chiropractor.

I go on, but my point is LET GO of the kvetching on the 2007 local election! Anyone on this site who posts a complaint has not contacted ME, and has not read the FULL STORY on exactly what happened to whom and when and why.

It's easy to post and make a mountain of a mole hill, but saner voices call for checking all of the legally filed and registered evidence before crying "foul."

Regarding... The point I want to post here is that I am SICK AND TIRED of the constant chatter about the perceived irregularities of the 2007 election. Mrs. Stephens DID upon RARE instance, speak inappropriately. There were TWO (2) complaints filed in 2007 with the Virginia State Board of Elections for inproprieties at that poll. That's ALL. I have them on file, along with my own personal deposition to the Fairfax County Board of Elections.

Mrs. Stephen's remarks, while wrong, did not in ANY WAY affect the outcome of the election, nor was there ANY reason to believe that she was "told" to do so by any Council Member of the Town, nor "led" by anyone else other than herself to say what she did.
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Are you that stupid? For one, if you knew anything about math, Rhoda Stevens could have easily effected the outcome of at least on of the people running. Do the math.

Secondly, why would Mayor seeman boast that they put her in there and knew she was doing this is years past, knowing what she was doing was wrong, yet allow her stay year after year, until someone finally brought it to the attention of those running?

THREE, RHODA WAS NOT JUST SPEAKING TO VOTERS, SHE WAS ACTUALLY WITNESSED COMING AROUND TO THE VOTERS SIDE OF THE VOTING MACHINE, PRESSING THE BACK BUTTON, AND TELLING PEOPLE THEY COULD NOT VOTE THE WAY THEY WERE DOING, WHEN SHE SAW PEOPLE BULLET VOTING. YOU CALL THAT LEGAL? THAT'S CLEARLY VOTER FRAUD IN ANY ONE'S BOOK!

AND YOU SAY THERE'S NO PLOT? WE HAVE IT IN HER OWN WORDS THAT ROHDA WAS TOLD TO DO WHAT SHE DID, AND TO THIS DAY, NO ONE HAS PUT HER ON STAND TO DEMAND THAT SHE REVEAL WHO TOLD HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID! SHE EVEN STATED SHE WAS GLAD SHE DID IT, BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT YOU OR SUSAN TO WIN, AND SHE SAID SHE WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF SHE COULD. SO DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND STOP SPREADING LIES YOURSELF! AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, CALLS WERE MADE TO THE VIENNA POLICE AND THE STATE POLICE. THE VIENNA POLICE REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE, STATING IT WAS NOT THERE RESPONSIBILITY. SO, WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE VOTER FRAUD? WHO? THE FBI? THE CIA? WHO DEBORAH? WHO?

NO-ONE EVER SAID YOU RAN AS A TEAM. WHO WOULD WANT TO? YOU MADE IT CLEAR FROM THE START THAT YOU WERE IN IT FOR YOURSELF, AND DID NOT WANT ANYTHING FROM ANYONE ELSE.

LAST: YOUR COMMENT: There was no reason to "boot" Mrs. Stephens out. She was an elder woman, she mis-spoke, and she was moved from poll watcher to poll registrar. If she had been removed entirely, the voting could not have continued, as there would have legally been an insuficient number of persons working at the polls!

IS FLAT OUT WRONG, SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REMOVED, AND WAS EVENTUALLY REMOVED WHEN IT WAS LEARNED THAT SHE WAS STILL THERE AT 5:30PM, 4-5 HOURS AFTER WE WERE TOLD THAT JEANNE MARIE DEVOLITES-DAVIS SAID SHE HAD HER THROWN OUT.

ONE HAS TO WONDER WHERE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR FACTS? I'LL BET THE 2 COMPLAINTS YOU HAVE IN HAND DON'T MENTION THESE FACTS. DO THEY? DON'T THINK YOU CAN POST HERE AND TRY TO PRETEND NOTHING HAPPENED. RHODA STEVENS, AND WHOEVER TOLD HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID, AND I SUSPECT IT WAS SOMEONE INVOLVED WITH THE VTC OR TOV ARE CRIMINALS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED AS SUCH.

My, My - I don't suppose I will change your mind...You must be that same person who believes in the "gunman on the grassy knoll conspiracy, " despite 45 years of forensic evidence to the contrary.

It is not the purview of the Vienna Police, State Police, FBI or CIA to investigate voter fraud. The parties responsible for that would be the Fairfax County Board of Elections, and the Virginia State Board of Elections. The two complaints registered on 5/1/07 were certified and filed with both of those boards, and both of those boards did fully investigate and come to their conclusion.

The matter is closed.

Rhoda Stevens is not a criminal. And the Town of Vienna did not direct her to make mis-guided statements on those two occassions.

I get my facts because I was there the whole time, and I was the one who filed the two complaints with the State and the County and testified to those boards.

And by the way, there was no second shooter on the grassy knoll...

To "To Deb Brehony" -
I prefer the name "Deborah."

I have posted here numerous times with papers, facts, names, etc.

I was THERE on May 1st, 2007, and I heard the complaints and forwarded those to the State Board of Elections.

Yet NO ONE on this site has come forward to ask me to produce those for anyone to see - Go Figure!

"Li'l Miss Complain-About," you have so much to say, but NOTHING to back you up... Perhaps you mean well, but you Got Nothin' to go on!

Mrs. Stephens DID respond to the board that she was confused - She said she interpreted the phrase "Vote for Not More Than Three" to mean one must "Vote for Three." I myself admit it was a confusing interpretation.She said (and I believe her) that her understanding from the County Training was that persons must "Vote for Three."

FfxCo has made a "Sea Change," and now states
"Vote for UP to Three." - VOILA! Positive change for our future! : - )

Yes, things did not go best for TOV in the election of 2007.

But there was not "evil intent" behind it, and no matter HOW I "do the math," I couldn't have changed it.

Oh,and thanks for asking -

I'm actually not "that stupid."

Deb,
On election day, I prevented your husband from getting into a physcial altercation at the poll. He was very upset over what Rhoda and others were doing, and after the results of the election were known, you were also quite upset at the election tampering. Both of you were promising lawsuits ad nauseum.

Yes, you filed complaints. According to an article in the Washington Examiner, you said in a letter accompanying your complaint that:
"The actions that took place on Tuesday, May 1 were not mistakes. They were planned and calculated."

Now you say, "Rhoda Stevens is not a criminal. And the Town of Vienna did not direct her to make mis-guided statements on those two occassions."

Why the revisionist history, Deb?

So typical. You are pushed into a corner, and you bring in irrelevant issues into the argument. First, if a crime is being committed, the local police do have the authority to stop it, i.e. they have authority to intervene and remove anyone who is committing a criminal act. It's just that when it was brought to the attention of Jane Seeman, she refused to tell the police that Rhoda Stevens was doing anything wrong.

Agree, the matter is closed (unfortunately), but they did only a superficial investigation and left too many stones unturned. They only investigated the two filed complaints. They did not, as they should have gotten the attorney general of Virginia involved.

Regarding your statement: "And the Town of Vienna did not direct her to make mis-guided statements on those two occassions." [sic]
I never said the TOV directed her to make mis-guided statements.

I said I suspected that someone, either working for the TOV or on the VTC told her to do, not say, what she did. She actually obstructed the unfettered voting of Vienna citizens by reaching around the voting machine and changed their votes. She said she was told to do this, as an excuse to get away with it. What part of this to do not understand. Look back through the reporting on this, and try not to rewrite history. Just because you submitted the only two complaints that were followed up on, does not mean there were no other complaints filed. You are wrong here too. I know there was another complaint filed, which was not acted on, for reasons I do not know, but I suspect that they had their reasons.

There was eyewitness accounts of Rhoda Stevens doing what she did, there was eyewitness accounts of her stating she was told to do what she did, and Mayor Seeman knew this to be a problem because of complaints in previous years, yet their machine, yes machine, did not act in any way to keep it from happening.

That, in anybodies book is wrong, and criminal. Just because no one was arrested dose not mean a crime was not committed.

Just because you sat in the boards, DOES NOT, mean you have or had all the evidence in front of you. The SBE chose what they wanted to present to the board, and if a more thorough investigation was performed, you would have seen a different conclusion. There was no followup on the people who actually saw Rhoda Stevens "changing votes." Why? because there was essentially no investigation other than what was submitted by you. Did you put the names of any of the people who came forward about this? I suspect not. They could have been there. They should have been there. If you didn't spoon feed the SBE with the information they needed to adequately look into the matter, they obviously were not going to do so. They said they would only initiate a full scale investigation if and only if a lawsuit was filed against the TOV and or the State.

So, again, please do not sit high and almighty thinking you are the only one with credible evidence of voter fraud, here in Vienna. Many people were there other than you.

PS and FYI, although completely irrelevant, the Warren Commission was reopened years later, and one of their conclusions was that there was a conspiracy. In fact; 2 of the 3 hired assassins testimonies were examined in secret. So, again, know your facts before you throw around words in an obvious attempt to belittle your opponents.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

It is true that I initially did think that the acts committed that day were "planned and calculated." It is also true that as I have come to know Mrs. Stephens over the past two years, I see that she does become confused at times, and I now think there was no malice intended on anyone's part. I have said as much to the Council and the Fairfax Election Board, and hold no ill-feelings.

The "revisionist history" is based on my having additional information and perspective on the issue.

To my knowledege, there was not one vote that was "chganged" because of anything that Mrs. Stephens said or did. There was one instance when she did touch a voting machine back button, telling the voter that it was incumbent upon her to "Vote for three." That voter was an attorney in her mid-forties, knew the law and proceeded to cast her vote as she had planned. I am unaware of any other attempts to "change votes," only reports that she was saying "Vote for three," which I have already explainedthat at the time Fairfax County was using the phrase "Vote for not more than three," which I now believe was confusing to Mrs. Stephens.

Being old and confused is not a criminal act, and the local police would not have been expected to intervene.

Do I think Mrs. Stephens was alert enough to have served as an Election Officer that day? I do not. But I do not now view her as coniving or malicious.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. I agree with the poster June 8 12:11AM.

I know and understand who Rhoda Stevens is. Whether or not you have an impression that she's some sweet little old lady who was confused on election day is irrelevant. [Especially since presenting an impression of being confused, was all a smoke screen] She still committed and crime, and I happen to know full well, she knew what she was doing, and that she was instructed by someone else to do what she did. She was not confused on election day. She explained to me that in no way, was she going to let people vote for Susan or Deborah, because she was told not to let the new people win. Her words, Deborah, her words.

Tape recordings do not lie. How she happened to present herself at the SBE inquest, is of no value unless she was evaluated by a psychiatrist, which she was not. In any event, she still broke the law, and no amount of your irrelevant and misleading comments is going to change that. I was told it was to the benefit of all concerned to let this issue die and not push it to a major investigation, as the VA SBE and Virginia officials did not want to see their dirty laundry aired for all to see.

You call that fair? I don't. It's high time we have an election, fair and honest and open, where we can get some new and honest people running the show. Because as long as you have people aligned with Robinson, Vienna is lost.

Being old and confused is not a criminal act, I agree, but it's not a get out of jail card or excuse for committing a crime. Rhoda Stevens would be just as guilty if she robbed a bank, and being simply confused and old is no defense. You know that, at least, if you are honest, you do.

The main issue here is Jane Seeman, after all, she knew a year past that Rhoda Stevens was a problem, yet she chose to do nothing. She did the same thing when Susan and Blair ran.

Why? Simply because it benefited her (Seeman) to do nothing, and that's exactly what she did. These people are ruthless and corrupt, and by their actions and acts of omission, they get what they want, to continue to be able to abuse their power on VTC.

You have to wonder why people with such petty motives are allowed to get away with this behavior. I suspect, it's much deeper than the motive of power. I suspect if someone were to do an honest accounting and investigation into the "books" here in Vienna, people would be put behind bars. Let's wait and see what happens. Thank God for whistle blowers.

Dear Deborah,

Just curious...if you know Rhoda so well, why do you keep calling her Rhoda Stephens? I thought her name was Rhoda Stevens?

http://www.historicvienna.com/2007/05/shout_out_to_rhoda_stevens_nic.html

Re: I was THERE on May 1st, 2007, and I heard the complaints and forwarded those to the State Board of Elections.
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Yet NO ONE on this site has come forward to ask me to produce those for anyone to see - Go Figure!

Are you that simpleminded to think that we can are unable to pick up a phone, and get copies of the reports and filed complaints from the SBE all by ourselves? My God, get a life, you are not the most important person in Vienna.

How did all this stuff about Seeman get off track to pull in stuff about Stevens, Brehoney, and past elections... We need to get back to the point and realize that this is exactly what people like Seeman like, getting attention off the main issues. Seeman needs to go, and that's that. She's no good for Vienna. She's not helping us, or being a leader. Here we are facing many problems, and Seeman and her followers have no solutions except to raise our taxes. I think people are concerned about jobs, expenses, insurance, travel, their health, their families, and jobs, and what has she done ever to help with these issues?

Nothing, ever.

It seems to me that all these people are interested in, is pushing their own political shadows around for their own benefit, either higher office, in the case of Polychrones and Kelleher, and in the case of Lovelace, Cole, Seeman, and Springsteen, and I suspect DiRocco (maybe she also has aspirations of running for higher office) it's power for its own sake. They are drunk with such abuses, simply because, what are they doing that is really helping Vienna, other than for there own picture taking at parades, and events? What are these people doing to help us?

Mind you, I am not against running for higher, but while you are here, why don't you get off your butts and do what you promised you would do when we voted for you. Like reduce our water rates by 75%, Kelleher... anyway, back to the point.

Maud deciding to step down is a great first step, but I think she will still be a powerful player in what her power base demands from this lot of elected officials, after, all they put them there. They are getting what they want: poor traffic conditions, higher taxes, drugs in our neighborhoods, unorganized growth in our commercial zones, did I mention higher taxes?, unfair and nepotism when it comes to who gets a variance and who doesn't in appeals to the Zoning Boards, poor road conditions, decreasing safety for our children on our neighborhood streets and sidewalks, sidewalks if they are they at all, unfairly high water prices, and water mains and lines that offer cloudy water, and lower pressures as the lines age, did I mention higher taxes, duplicating services such as Fire Fighters, especially since, 90% of the time, it's Fairfax County who responds to a fire or emergency and not our own Vienna people, and just about the worst sense of community comradery and congeniality, than any place I have ever lived, and that includes some pretty large cities.

I have lived here for many years, and I am disheartened to see the joy and enthusiasm that I see in our youngsters playing in little league games, almost 99% changed to apathy,indifference,and pessimism when they are older.

Why? I think we have no real leadership in this town, no real figurehead that we can all admire, no real leader that can get out to people and really lead, communicate, and bring this town together. Vienna is lacking in this the most. We need a leader that will bring back the enthusiasm and joy, and greatness this town has years and years ago, before it started to become infected with people who know little or nothing about hope and our future. I would love to see someone at the reigns that can help my children want to live and stay in Vienna but also feel that they are happy to do so, and quick to aid and assistance of our elderly population who also wishes to stay here.

At the present, we have not. Jane Seeman is a pathetic excuse for a Mayor, and it's a pity we have her at the wheel, now that we need someone more than ever that will truly lead and help everyone, young and old. We want someone who will not succumb to the evils and vices of abuse of power. We need someone whose heart is in the right place ready to sacrifice time and effort to help all those in need, whether or not they voted for you. Jane Seeman is not this person. If she has any inkling that you do not agree with her lock step, she holds up and becomes downright hostile. This is a trait one should never see in a politician let alone our Mayor. And because of our younger apathetic citizens, we are destined to settle with petty and despicable white trash. The upper WASP elitists are running the show, and we are all hurting.

A post above states that there are two former VTC members residing in Vienna. Actually, Robert Mccormick would be a third and there may be an obscure person living in NE Vienna who was a councilman. I have not heard of the latter for years and do not know his present status.

Bob McCormick no longer resides in the Town.

Once again, some folks have shown their "true colors," by choosing to eviserate fellow posters and engage in fruitless arguement instead of constructive conversation.

Sad that people here are called "boobs," "fat assed,"stupid," and "simple minded."

Makes it hard for one to take it seriously.


Is Debra Brehoney trying to make a comeback and run for VTC again? Else, why would she want to type all this crap and fiction about what Rhoda Stevens did and try an sugar coat everything? Is she awake? Also, I heard a rumor that the Brehoney's were moving out of Vienna... is this true? Not that it matters, I still don't like hearing anything that makes Rhoda Stevens smelling of roses, when she so much smells of lies and criminality. She should be behind bars. Sweet little old lady, my arse. She's gotten away with her hand in the cookie jar, and she's laughing all the way to Maud's House.

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