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Vienna: Progressive Business Development!

Sometimes we are too hard on the Vienna machine. Let's take a moment to offer praise where praise is due. For years Vienna was home to one of the most run down Safeway grocery stores around. It is gone now to be replaced with a new Walgreens. Wow! What a success story! The great thing about Vienna getting another drugstore? It's not a bank! In all seriousness look at the fine work of the Vienna machine. They took a beat up building and were able to put a new store in there and PRESERVE the building almost unchanged! Ladies and gentlesheep, that took some serious work and effort! That is true historic preservation. You can actually read the minutes here of Town leaders Paul Layer and Shirley 'Demon' and witness their attention to detail. Job well done! When will the Seeman be cutting the ribbon?

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So, as long as we are playing the game of making fun of spelling errors, our Mayor is "Seeman", not "Seaman". You sophs must be having a ball with that one! Oh, Sorry! Did I say "Ball"?

Whoo hoo hoo hoo...,

Oh Please, Children- Just grow up and get a grip.

No, I'm not a Walgeens fan, and I do wish circumstances were different , and Vienna could have attracted a different suiter.

I also believe that citizen action and interaction are instrumental in making these things happen, and whining after the fact is just so many wasted tears about what could have happened that never was.

So, fight if you need to, but at least fight like adults- Be respectful and understand the issues!

It's not the fault of the Current Town Council that Walgreens was able to purchase/lease thier store on Maple Ave.

The Zoning Code needs to be addressed, but within legal and proper perameters!

Off to my Spelling Classes!


It's not the fault of the Current Town Council that Walgreens was able to purchase/lease thier store on Maple Ave.

The Zoning Code needs to be addressed, but within legal and proper perameters!

Of course it is the VTC's fault. They write the code that dictates what can be built and or rebuilt in Vienna, what is bought and or sold. Their efforts correlate perfectly with how ALL business decisions are made in Vienna's commercial areas. To say otherwise is a lie. Happy talk for everyone!

I stand by my comment that the Zoning Code needs to be addressed/changed.

The duty of the Council is to Enforce the Code. Like any law board, their job is not to CREATE rules, rather to carry out those that already exist.

There are means/ ways to change things, but things have to lawfully change BEFORE the Council can enforce those... The Council is responsible to the Law, so first the Law must be changed...

Citizens elect the Council, and Citizens are ultimately responsible for dictating the law.

The short story is that we and we alone are responsible for the new Walgreens. A different vote would have dictated a different decision

The duty of the Council is to Enforce the Code. Like any law board, their job is not to CREATE rules, rather to carry out those that already exist.

These comments do not reflect clear thinking, nor are they accurate. The Vienna Town Council creates the zoning code in Vienna and they enforce it. They also create the operational procedures that act as law (i.e. the word 'garish' as commonly and subjectively used in this town). Bottom line, the Vienna Town Council is 100% responsible for Walgreens entering and occupying that building through their actions (i.e restrictive Town code and interpretations that allow little room for development and or redevelopment that forces owners into a situation where their best profit maximization is to use existing structures and footprints which are often 30 years old). They are responsible via the written law they have enacted and the unwritten way they enforce subjective interpretations in Vienna. If you want to argue against my statements you better bring some proof.

There are means/ ways to change things, but things have to lawfully change BEFORE the Council can enforce those... The Council is responsible to the Law, so first the Law must be changed...

Who do you think makes the law in Vienna? Your statement seems to imply it is done by a group other than the VTC. Ridiculously stupid comments.

Let's see if there is a better way to say this. The way I see it, it's two different processes. For the Town Code to change, there has to be sitting members of the Council who are of a mind to do that, and that means they would have been elected by like-minded citizens who also want the Code to change. So the citizens are ultimately responsible for the Code and the direction of the Town. If you look at it as an Organizational Chart, the Council serves the Citizens, not the other way around.

As far as the existing Code, yes, it is the Council's job to interpret and enforce that which is on the books.

I'm offended by the red sign in front of the new Walgreens. How come they get a red sign when Bank of America had to have a white sign?

Case Number 091343, if you're Deborah Brehony playing from home.

It's so much fun to call people out by name! Yay!

No, I fancy myself neither "Ignorant" nor "Dunce", and I take exception that I make "ridiculously stupid" comments.

Apparently, constructive comment is not welcome here if it varies in any way from the "powers that be" on your site.

Ahhh Well, be that what it may- My original Post, for which I was crucified, was asking for additional information to help locate the Suit against the Town, so that we could follow that.....

Must've been a sensitive question, considering the results.

Thanks, "You're Kidding Me"

At least you had the kahunas to answer the question.

Hhhhmmm- Sounds strangly familiar!

Oh, yeah - I AM "playing from home."

Where else might you think I would be?

The duty of the Council is to Enforce the Code. Like any law board, their job is not to CREATE rules, rather to carry out those that already exist.

HELLO HAVE YOU NOT SEEN WHAT IS GOING ON ALL AROUND YOU? THIS IS NOT A COUNTRY BOUND BY THE RULE OF LAW ANYMORE, BUT A COUNTRY BUILT UPON SELF SERVING POLITICIANS WHO MAKE UP AND CREATE THEIR OWN RULES!

Hello "Wake Up"

I would certainly hope to think that our country is bound by the Rule of Law. Last time I voted, we were still a Democracy, ruled by elected officials that were determined by the majority of the voting public.

Does this fact make me "Happy"?

No, I am not always happy, but I can only hope to address and change issues within legal parameters.

We may not agree with the Majority, but so long as Majority rules-

Well, I say it's better to work WITH them in an effort to draw them towards us than to fight AGAINST them and ultimately push them away.

The town council is responsible for determining what rules get studied to be changed, who they appoint to manage the town and committees, etc. just as much as they are responsible for enforcing the law. Most of the laws in Vienna (Park zones, height restrictions, lot coverage, etc.) came out of complaints and issues that people brought before the town over the years. Vienna was barely anything before the 50's and most of the laws have been enacted since then and are continually being changed up to the present by what the council deems important. The problem I have now is that any law changes are mostly discussed behind closed doors or at worksessions with little public involvement or meeting minutes written. How are we supposed to know what law changes they are pursuing if they don't invite the public to participate with them?

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